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Did Anything Positive Come From You Being A JW?
by Why Georgia ini know this has probably been asked before.. did anything positive come from you being a jw?.
i personally was never a jw....but i have benefited from darling husband being one.
from working on all those quick builds and being involved in all those cleaning businesses.
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is the gun responsible or the one who fires it?
by zen nudist inwho is the real murderer?.
cain who slew abel, or god who rejected cain, and according to most believers knew how cain would react and what he would do...and did nothing to stop him.. "am i my brother's keeper?
" could be translated as --- why weren't you watching over abel?
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zen nudist
who is the real murderer?
Cain who slew Abel, or God who rejected Cain, and according to most believers KNEW how Cain would react and what he would do...and did nothing to stop him.
"Am I my brother's keeper?" could be translated as --- Why weren't you watching over Abel? He was your favorite after all?
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if ignorance is bliss, why are people afraid of the unknown?
by zen nudist in.
fear is anticipation of pain.... no one really fears death is by death they mean complete non-existance... there is no pain possible for those who dont exist...what they fear is the unkown life that may come after death in whatever form they may find themselves...they fear the possible painful hell of religion or the judgement of others who may be waiting for them, etc.... being ignorant is often not seen as our normal position.... we never really know what is around the next bend, but often we go through each day without thinking that at all... we have a plan, a goal and a dont see any apparent road blocks, so we feel confident and forget that this is all delusions based on experiences of the past which are hardly consistant predicators of the future.
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zen nudist
Many see that life is essentially emty and meaningless
without the prospect of eternal life, prior to my JW exit, that is all it seemed to me as well....why bother, it all ends up in a big 0, meaningless and pointless.... but
after leaving JWs, I found life still meaningful but it took a while before I figured out why....
I discovered that I had been taught to see meaning as some objective measure that one would compare their life... and see how he measures up....
but I read this account of a world chess champ who beat out IBM's Deep blue chess program and remarked how hollow his victory felt, there was not one to beat, no one to gloat over, no one to realize the sting of loss, the computer did not care, it was all the same to it, win or lose, no difference.
and then it occurred to me that my caring was the true source of meaning for me..... there is no meaning of life, only meaning found by the living in what they care about.
or as Terry said, what they value and how strongly they value it.
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if ignorance is bliss, why are people afraid of the unknown?
by zen nudist in.
fear is anticipation of pain.... no one really fears death is by death they mean complete non-existance... there is no pain possible for those who dont exist...what they fear is the unkown life that may come after death in whatever form they may find themselves...they fear the possible painful hell of religion or the judgement of others who may be waiting for them, etc.... being ignorant is often not seen as our normal position.... we never really know what is around the next bend, but often we go through each day without thinking that at all... we have a plan, a goal and a dont see any apparent road blocks, so we feel confident and forget that this is all delusions based on experiences of the past which are hardly consistant predicators of the future.
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zen nudist
when I left JWs, I had no expectations other than my imment demise once I left this mortal coil.... rather than causing fear in me, that actually emboldened me to take some risks I had not dared before.... I made a pact with myself, that I would exit if things ever got to be unlivable by my own hand or the whims of fate... I had also come to see that freewill was a myth and determinism the likely rule of the day and so had a fatalist view of things...I would not need to worry any more because no matter what I did, that is what I was destined to do...
my motto-- Destiny is a bitch, but some of her puppies are cute.
and I lived that way for several years until I did past life regression and awakened the possibility that this life is not all there is and there may be something afterwards... but even there, I found no fear of the future, no fear of a vengeful god judging me after this life is over...and nothing to change my mind concerning freewill being a delusion of ignorance.
and while I have not found ignorance to be bliss, I have also not found it to be something to fear either....
my new motto---
every move is a gamble to some degree...and accepting the consequences of each move and learning what I can from them leaves no room for regrets.
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RELIGIONS OF THE WORLD
by fri inreligions of the world
taoism: shit happens
hinduism: this shit happened before
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zen nudist
oriental religions -- kim chi happens
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if ignorance is bliss, why are people afraid of the unknown?
by zen nudist in.
fear is anticipation of pain.... no one really fears death is by death they mean complete non-existance... there is no pain possible for those who dont exist...what they fear is the unkown life that may come after death in whatever form they may find themselves...they fear the possible painful hell of religion or the judgement of others who may be waiting for them, etc.... being ignorant is often not seen as our normal position.... we never really know what is around the next bend, but often we go through each day without thinking that at all... we have a plan, a goal and a dont see any apparent road blocks, so we feel confident and forget that this is all delusions based on experiences of the past which are hardly consistant predicators of the future.
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fear is anticipation of pain.... no one really fears death is by death they mean complete non-existance... there is no pain possible for those who dont exist...what they fear is the unkown life that may come after death in whatever form they may find themselves...they fear the possible painful hell of religion or the judgement of others who may be waiting for them, etc...
being ignorant is often not seen as our normal position.... we never really know what is around the next bend, but often we go through each day without thinking that at all... we have a plan, a goal and a dont see any apparent road blocks, so we feel confident and forget that this is all delusions based on experiences of the past which are hardly consistant predicators of the future.
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Prove to me that God exists
by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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zen nudist
simple--- you exist, you are real, you are conscious, you are part of the single reality, which as we have just estabilished, exists, is real and is conscious, thus you are God.... as there is no other meaning of the term God but reality dreaming [see Brahma]
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Are you an atheist?
by hibiscusfire inwhy are we here?
what is the purpose of life?
an atheist has many questions but no answers.. .
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zen nudist
Imagine an inmate sitting on death row. He is about to be executed when the warden appears at his cell with an official pardon signed by the governor.
All this condemned man must do is accept the pardon and he can waltz out of prison a free man. But suppose he rejects the pardon and is executed.
Is it the governor's fault? No. He did everything he could, but his offer was rejected.
Our eternal destiny is the same. We can accept God's offer, or we can reject it and suffer the consequences.
The choice is ours. What could be more fair? Soon, you will have an opportunity to choose heaven as your eternal home. If we do nothing, hell is where we will go.
however what is really going on is that the guy in the cell next to you is saying you have been pardoned because of the writting he shows you on a roll of toilet paper that he got from another guy down the corridor who swears it came directly from a guy who can pardon you, who you have never met and have no valid reason to believe exists.
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Are you an atheist?
by hibiscusfire inwhy are we here?
what is the purpose of life?
an atheist has many questions but no answers.. .
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zen nudist
Zen: I am backing up what I say are you?
To be honest, you havent yet made an argument. You have stated beliefs as fact, without backing them up with reasoned argument. Many Christians on this site are able to back up their beliefs with some degree of argument and logic, although neither side can prove beliefs. At least their line of argument, backed up by accurate scriptures, history, archaeology, textual criticism etc etc affords them some degree of credibility. Which of the 10,000 Christian religions to you currently consider yourself?
Hib-- I can give you reasons why I believe what I believe, but I have at no time pretended to KNOW I am right as you have... I dont like lying.
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Are you an atheist?
by hibiscusfire inwhy are we here?
what is the purpose of life?
an atheist has many questions but no answers.. .
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zen nudist
funky: you really don't seem to be intelligent enough to grasp the simplest arguments Professing themselves to be wise they become fools right? Jesus did teach in a simple manner. Do you consider yourself intelligent funky?
I have seen you making a lot of statements that you do not bother to back up with facts, presenting beliefs as facts is another way of lying....and you know where liars will end up? why present your FAITH as fact, when it is likely not even more than mythology? what evidence do you have to support a single thing you have said other than jewish myths?